PillowTalk
a relationship e-course
(that's cheaper than therapy)
(WHAT IS PILLOWTALK?)
A relationship e-course that gives you practical handles for how to foster a healthy and thriving marriage.
When we said “I do” at the altar, we were determined to do marriage differently than we saw growing up—even though we had no idea how. Neither of us had seen healthy relationships modeled, but we knew we wanted one.
Enter Dr. Jonathan Cude—our marriage therapist from day one. Through his guidance, we’ve navigated conflict, deepened our connection, and learned practical tools that transformed our relationship. Along the way, we realized that so many couples want a thriving marriage but don’t always have access to one they can learn from.
That’s why we created PillowTalk. In this course, we invite you into our real-life marriage—raw, honest, and unfiltered—while Dr. Cude provides the therapeutic insight and guidance that has helped us for over a decade.
Think of it as sitting on the couch with us.
Let’s build a marriage you love.
ABOUT THE COURSES
meet our therapist (& now, yours too!)
Dr. Jonathan Cude enjoys working with both individuals and couples. Although most of his clinical work is with distressed couples (affairs, divorce, unhealthy conflict, etc.), he also enjoys working with couples who are just starting out and couples who simply want more connection in their relationship. His approach to the couple's work is rooted in the research of John Gottman, Ph.D. He mainly works with individual issues utilizing a cognitive-behavioral approach which has been shown to be the most effective way to work with clients struggling with depression and anxiety. He has been married to Ann for over 35 years. Together they have two grown children and they are currently adjusting well to the empty nest.
meet aaron & haven
Aaron and Haven’s love story began in high school, where they met while playing music together. After two years of friendship and five and a half years of dating, they got married in 2012. He’s a musician, and she’s an entrepreneur—best friends who are total opposites. They live in LA with their two kids, Eisley and Eko, who have effortlessly transformed their parents’ Instagram accounts into their own personal fan clubs.
Kind Words <3
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"The most surprising thing we have learned throughout this process is how differently we think."
We both had preconceived notions about "the right way" to handle conflict, to interact with our friends, to spend our money, to cultivate intimacy, etc. The most surprising thing we have learned throughout this process is how differently we think. We had to recognize that the patterns and processes we have always used were not second nature to the other person, and therefore, needed to be talked about so we could find what works for us together and not just for one person or the other.
– Courtney & Spencer
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"Haven & Aaron have always been such an awesome example of what it means to have a healthy, vulnerable, honest and transparent marriage."
Haven & Aaron have always been such an awesome example of what it means to have a healthy, vulnerable, honest and transparent marriage. Not absent of tough times or conflicts, but a testament to what it takes to choose someone every day. We only trusted them to guide us through the Pillow Talk course because we’ve seen first hand that they walk the walk!
- Emily & Riley
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"Pillow Talk helped me realize that conflict isn't such a bad thing and that is where growth happens."
"I don't know if I had seen a healthy marriage - or a marriage that I wanted. I think I saw marriages that looked perfect on the outside but had other things going on inside. PillowTalk helped me realize that conflict isn't such a bad thing and that is where growth happens. Conflict comes from honesty and now when we come on the other side of a fight we feel so much stronger because of it in our marriage and as a couple."
- Ciella & Adolfo
PillowTalk Courses
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how to fight better
When you get married, you’re not committing to love, laughter, and forever—you’re also signing up for a lifetime of conflict. Every couple fights. But the difference between a marriage that thrives and one that struggles isn’t whether you fight—it’s how you fight. Too often, conflict turns into a battleground where both sides leave wounded. But what if it could be the thing that actually brings you closer instead of pulling you apart?
In How to Fight Better, we’re putting on the boxing gloves—but not to go head-to-head against each other. Instead, we’re learning how to be on the same team, fighting for our marriage. In this course you’ll learn how to argue without destroying intimacy because when you learn to fight better, you love better too.
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post-marital counseling
(Available Summer 2025)
Everyone talks about pre-marital counseling—getting ready for the altar, preparing for the future. But what about after the vows have been said? What about when you’re 3, 5, or 10 years in, and things start to feel… different? Maybe the spark has dimmed, the connection isn’t as effortless, or you’re just going through the motions. Marriage isn’t something you prepare for once and then set on autopilot. Like anything valuable, it needs care, attention, and the occasional tune-up.
That’s where Post-Marital Counseling comes in. Think of this course as a holistic check-up for your relationship, whether you’ve been married 3 years or 23 years. From reigniting intimacy to navigating seasons of change, we’ll help you realign, reconnect, and refresh your relationship—because a thriving marriage doesn’t happen by accident. It happens by choice.
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intimacy & sex
coming soon...
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dating your spouse
coming soon...
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past trauma & new relationships
coming soon...
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so we have kids, now what?
coming soon...
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Bundle Options
Want to do this course with a church? small group? book club?
Bundles are available below!
Tier 1
$400
Purchase 5 Courses,
get 1 free
Tier 2
$700
Purchase 10 Courses,
get 3 free
Tier 3
$1,000
Purchase 15 Courses,
get 5 free
We’ve Got Answers!
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Pillow Talk is for couples who are committed to making the most out of their marriage—whether you’re newlyweds or decades in. If you believe that growth doesn’t stop after “I do” and you’re willing to have honest, meaningful conversations with your partner, this course is for you.
We’re not here to give you a rigid formula or a one-size-fits-all approach. Instead, Pillow Talk offers facilitated discussion prompts and practical tools that you can take at your own pace. Whether you’re looking to strengthen your communication, navigate conflict, or simply deepen your connection, this course is designed to help you build a marriage that not only lasts but thrives.
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Our courses are designed to be taken in manageable chunks, making it easy to fit into your busy life. Each course consists of 10-15 bite-sized modules (with a few bonus/optional extra modules at the end depending on your stage of life!)The videos are intentionally short and digestible—never more than 15 minutes each—so you can engage without feeling overwhelmed.
What makes Pillow Talk unique is the built-in “pause” moments throughout the lessons, encouraging you and your partner to stop, reflect, and have real conversations. This isn’t just about watching—it’s about actively learning and growing together at your own pace.n text goes here
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When you enroll in a Pillow Talk course, you’ll have lifetime access to revisit the tools and lessons whenever you need them. We want you to have the freedom to return to the material, refresh your understanding, and continue growing in your relationship. At the same time, we encourage you to dive in and engage fully—because lasting change comes from taking action, not just having good intentions.
Let’s Get Into It.
Interested in having your group go through Pillow Talk together or bringing us in to speak at your event?
Got questions about bulk orders?
Wondering if we can settle that age-old debate about whether the thermostat really needs to be set that low?
Fill out your contact info here, and we’ll be in touch!